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next week the vice presidential candidates will debate. the following week obama romney round two. with a town hall meeting kind of format. and then the third and final debate focusing on foreign policy two weeks before election day. campaign 2012 coverage continues 24/7 at cbsnews.com. there will be more about tonight's debate first thing tomorrow on "this morning" with charlie rose, norah o'donnell and gayle king. as for who won the debate tonight, that's entirely up to you. i'm scott pelley in denver. good night. captioning sponsored by cbs captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org [ male announcer ] citibank's app for ipad makes it easy for anne to manage her finances when she's on the go. even when she's not going anywhere. citibank for ipad. easier banking. standard at citibank. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing a reason...to look twice. introducing a stunning work of technology -- the entirely new lexus es. and the first-ever es hybrid. this is the pursuit of perfection. [ male announcer ] jay likes it when his mobile phone helps him deposi
next week the vice presidential candidates will debate. the following week obama romney round two. with a town hall meeting kind of format. and then the third and final debate focusing on foreign policy two weeks before election day. campaign 2012 coverage continues 24/7 at cbsnews.com. there will be more about tonight's debate first thing tomorrow on "this morning" with charlie rose, norah o'donnell and gayle king. as for who won the debate tonight, that's entirely up to you. i'm...
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next week the vice presidential candidates will debate. the following week obama, romney round two. with a town hall meeting kind of format. and then the third and final debate focusing on foreign policy two weeks before election day. campaign 2012 coverage continues 24/7 at cbsnews.com. there will be more about tonight's debate first thing tomorrow on "this morning" with charlie rose, norah o'donnell and gayle king. as for who won the debate tonight, that's entirely up to you. i'm scott pelley in denver. good night. captioning sponsored by cbs captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org krystal conwell : we see a lot of problems with the... number of students that we have. resources. materials. things that the children need... on a day-to-day basis. anncr: question seven will help. the department of legislative services says question seven... will mean hundreds of millions of dollars... for schools...from gaming revenues that would have... gone to other states. and independent audits will guarantee the money... goes where it's supposed to.
next week the vice presidential candidates will debate. the following week obama, romney round two. with a town hall meeting kind of format. and then the third and final debate focusing on foreign policy two weeks before election day. campaign 2012 coverage continues 24/7 at cbsnews.com. there will be more about tonight's debate first thing tomorrow on "this morning" with charlie rose, norah o'donnell and gayle king. as for who won the debate tonight, that's entirely up to you. i'm...
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next week. likewise, a study by mckenzie and company said 30% are anticipating dropping them from coverage. for those reasons, for the tax, for medicare, for this board, and for people losing their insurance, this is why the american people don't want obama care. it's why republicans said do not do this. and the republicans had a plan. they put a plan, a bipartisan plan. it was swept aside. i think something this big, this important, has to be done on a bipartisan basis. we have to have a president that can reach across the aisle and fashion legislation with input from both parties. >> governor romney said this has to be done with a bipartisan basis. this was a bipartisan idea, in fact, a republican idea. governor romney at the beginning of this debate wrote and said, what we did in massachusetts could be a model for the nation. and i agree that the democratic legislators in massachusetts might have given some advice to republicans in congress about how to cooperate. but the fact of the matter i
next week. likewise, a study by mckenzie and company said 30% are anticipating dropping them from coverage. for those reasons, for the tax, for medicare, for this board, and for people losing their insurance, this is why the american people don't want obama care. it's why republicans said do not do this. and the republicans had a plan. they put a plan, a bipartisan plan. it was swept aside. i think something this big, this important, has to be done on a bipartisan basis. we have to have a...
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>> obama: well for 18 months he has been running on this tax plan, and now, five weeks before the election, he is saying his big bold idea is never mind and the fact is that if you are lowering the rates the way you describe, governor, then it is not possible to come up with enough deductions and loopholes that only affect high income individuals to avoid either raising the deficit or burdening the middle class. it's math. it's arithmetic. now governor romney and i do share a deep interest in encouraging small business growth. so at the same time that my tax plan has already lowered taxes for 98% of families i also lowered taxes for small businesses 18 times, and what i want to do is continue the tax rates -- the tax cuts that we put into place for small businesses and families but i have said that for incomes over $250,000 a year that we should go back to the rates that we had when bill clinton was president when we created 23 million new jobs, went from deficit to surplus, and created a whole lot of millionaires to boot. and by doing that, we cannot only reduce the deficit, encourage job
>> obama: well for 18 months he has been running on this tax plan, and now, five weeks before the election, he is saying his big bold idea is never mind and the fact is that if you are lowering the rates the way you describe, governor, then it is not possible to come up with enough deductions and loopholes that only affect high income individuals to avoid either raising the deficit or burdening the middle class. it's math. it's arithmetic. now governor romney and i do share a deep...
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i'm not smart enough to say whose moment will last, especially when the election is weeks away. i'll see you tonight on "fox business" network. the liberal debate backlash, could the media be turning on the president or was it so embarrassed that it had no choice but to recognize the obvious in the president, that on this one night, this crucial night, he botched it. is there something bigger going on here? a key advisor to the romney campaign, john sununu on bigger things at play. it's what he says about the
i'm not smart enough to say whose moment will last, especially when the election is weeks away. i'll see you tonight on "fox business" network. the liberal debate backlash, could the media be turning on the president or was it so embarrassed that it had no choice but to recognize the obvious in the president, that on this one night, this crucial night, he botched it. is there something bigger going on here? a key advisor to the romney campaign, john sununu on bigger things at play....
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we didn't hear about president obama saying you didn't build it or something like that. this was a more elevated discussion. we don't see a lot of things on ads tonight. >> right. i think that is good for the american people because it's a substantive discussion about issues and i thought that again, that governor romney came across with great command and energy. and that i'm certain next time he'll be better prepared. and there is a discussion about what's happening in latest attack ad. it's about the issues and i thought that it was for that reason a good debate. that was very impressed by and pleased with the governor's performance tonight. i think it gave him an opportunity he hasn't had before with people who are undecided. they had to have walked away tonight impressed by what they heard and saw. >> greta: i thought one of the questions governor romney handled well was the bipartisan question. we had a discussion about the fact there is no budget. we can't get a budget here because senator harry reid doesn't want that to happen. that is where there is a lot of tie
we didn't hear about president obama saying you didn't build it or something like that. this was a more elevated discussion. we don't see a lot of things on ads tonight. >> right. i think that is good for the american people because it's a substantive discussion about issues and i thought that again, that governor romney came across with great command and energy. and that i'm certain next time he'll be better prepared. and there is a discussion about what's happening in latest attack ad....
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griewd on that note, that does wrap up this coverage of our first debate between president obama and former governor mitt romney. we'll have live coverage as we suggested of the two remaining debates here on pbs as well as next thursday's vice presidential face-off at the center college in danville, kentucky. that will be moderated by martha radditz of abc news. >> ifill: can't wait. we'll see you then and again tomorrow night at our regular "newshour" time but our debate continues on our after-hours .e stre for now i'm gwen ifill. >> woodruff: and i'm judy woodruff. thuf and good night. captioning sponsored by macneil/lehrer productions captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org
griewd on that note, that does wrap up this coverage of our first debate between president obama and former governor mitt romney. we'll have live coverage as we suggested of the two remaining debates here on pbs as well as next thursday's vice presidential face-off at the center college in danville, kentucky. that will be moderated by martha radditz of abc news. >> ifill: can't wait. we'll see you then and again tomorrow night at our regular "newshour" time but our debate...
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griewd on that note, that does wrap up this coverage of our first debate between president obama and former governor mitt romney. we'll have live coverage as we suggested of the two remaining debates here on pbs as well as next thursday's vice presidential face-off at the center college in danville, kentucky. that will be moderated by martha radditz of abc news. >> ifill: can't wait. we'll see you then and again tomorrow night at our regular "newshour" time but our debate continues on our stve .re am liveream. for now i'm gwen ifill. >> woodruff: and i'm judy woodruff. thuf and good night. captioning sponsored by macneil/lehrer productions captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org . >> are you ready? [counting in foreign language] [blows whistle] >> he was an original. in the history of motion pictures, no one before or since has seemed quite as debonair, as sophisticated, and yet, with it all, as human. for over 30 years, he was hollywood's most sought-after leading man, acknowledged as one of its truly great comedians. >> ooh! >> he was the star everyone loved. he was
griewd on that note, that does wrap up this coverage of our first debate between president obama and former governor mitt romney. we'll have live coverage as we suggested of the two remaining debates here on pbs as well as next thursday's vice presidential face-off at the center college in danville, kentucky. that will be moderated by martha radditz of abc news. >> ifill: can't wait. we'll see you then and again tomorrow night at our regular "newshour" time but our debate...
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obviously the big story this week is the first obama-romney debate. i'm very excited about this, because these are two guys who i wouldn't say are great debaters. >> right. >> i think they both have strengths and very pointed weaknesses. >> i've been calling the first debate romney game changer version 3.0. >> yes. he's going to purpose it around this week. >> yes. first it was you'll get a running mate and you'll see this race get shaken up. at the convention, he's going to give a speech like nobody's ever seen before. now it's like the first debate. seriously, guys, quit laughing. >> they've been waiting for the moment, this is it. >> it's always interesting to watch both sides kind of play with the expectations here. my favorite piece of news is romney is practicing zingers. >> i can't believe they let that leak. >> humor is one of his strong suits. >> i remember back in the 1980's when he did improv and he was fantastic. he did bird calls and great christopher walkin impression. >> that's right. >> why why why would you leak that mitt romney its r
obviously the big story this week is the first obama-romney debate. i'm very excited about this, because these are two guys who i wouldn't say are great debaters. >> right. >> i think they both have strengths and very pointed weaknesses. >> i've been calling the first debate romney game changer version 3.0. >> yes. he's going to purpose it around this week. >> yes. first it was you'll get a running mate and you'll see this race get shaken up. at the convention,...
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griewd on that note, that does wrap up this coverage of our first debate between president obama and former governor mitt romney. we'll have live coverage as we suggested of the two remaining debates here on pbs as well as next thursday's vice presidential face-off at the center college in danville, kentucky. that will be moderated by martha radditz of abc news. >> ifill: can't wait. we'll see you then and again tomorrow night at our regular "newshour" time but our debate continues on our after-hours live stream. for now i'm gwen ifill. >> woodruff: and i'm judy woodruff. thuf and good night. captioning sponsored by macneil/lehrer productions captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org >> susie: i'm susie gharib with an "n.b.r." news brief. a day of positive news for wall street. first: private sector hiring was stronger than expected in september. payroll processor a.d.p. said employers added 162,000 jobs last month, but job growth for july and august were revised lower. meantime, the services-sector of the economy picked up the pace of growth. today's positive news led
griewd on that note, that does wrap up this coverage of our first debate between president obama and former governor mitt romney. we'll have live coverage as we suggested of the two remaining debates here on pbs as well as next thursday's vice presidential face-off at the center college in danville, kentucky. that will be moderated by martha radditz of abc news. >> ifill: can't wait. we'll see you then and again tomorrow night at our regular "newshour" time but our debate...
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obama: well, for 18 months he's been running on this tax plan and now, five weeks before the election, he is saying that is big old idea is nevermind. the fact is that if you are lowering the rates the way you describe, then it is not possible to come up with enough deductions and loopholes that only affect high-income individuals to avoid either raising the deficit or burdening the middle-class. it is not. it is arithmetic. now, governor romney and i do share a deep interest in encouraging small business growth. so at the same time that my tax plan has 30 lower taxes for 98% of families, i also lower taxes for small businesses 18 times. what i want to do is continue to tax rates, the tax cuts we put in place for small businesses and families. but i have said that for incomes over $250,000 a year, that we should go back to the race we had when bill clinton was president, when we created 22 million jobs, what from deficit to surplus and created a whole created a lot of millionaires to boot. the reason this is important is because they doing that we can not only reduce the deficit. we c
obama: well, for 18 months he's been running on this tax plan and now, five weeks before the election, he is saying that is big old idea is nevermind. the fact is that if you are lowering the rates the way you describe, then it is not possible to come up with enough deductions and loopholes that only affect high-income individuals to avoid either raising the deficit or burdening the middle-class. it is not. it is arithmetic. now, governor romney and i do share a deep interest in encouraging...
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. >> for 18 months he has been running on this tax plan, and now five weeks before the election he is saying that his big bold idea is never mind. >> but he also showed flashes of the kind of testiness sources in both camps feared from their candidates, except obama's was directed at the moderator, not romney. >> the last point i would make before -- >> ten minutes is up, sir. >> i think -- i had five seconds before you interrupted me. was -- >> romney did have his own awkward moderator moment. >> i'm sorry, jim. i'm going to stop this subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things, and i like pbs. i love big bird. i actually like you too. >> one of the most surprising parts of the president's performance was what he did not say. no mention of romney's infamous 47% remark, no talk about bain capital, nothing about romney's own taxes. he did play the romney is a hypocrite card when it comes to health care. >> the irony is that we've seen this model work really well in massachusetts because governor romney did a good thing working with democrats in the state to set up what is essentiall
. >> for 18 months he has been running on this tax plan, and now five weeks before the election he is saying that his big bold idea is never mind. >> but he also showed flashes of the kind of testiness sources in both camps feared from their candidates, except obama's was directed at the moderator, not romney. >> the last point i would make before -- >> ten minutes is up, sir. >> i think -- i had five seconds before you interrupted me. was -- >> romney did...
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you know with joe biden you are going to get a handsful of these -- maybe every week. but the soft spot for president obama is that the record for the last four years is not one he can be particularly proud of. he is running on the clinton economy, more than he is on his own -- >> greta: in other words, they were buried -- >> well, whatever -- whatever -- whatever word you want to use, there are not a lot of things to point to in the economic numbers that make you feel good about t. he clarified and said it's because of the romney and ryan policies that they were buried over the larger period than four yierz, but it's a bad comment. it's the four years that you are going to have president obama trying to defend -- tomorrow night. >> the problem is, joe biden talked about the one thing he was not supposed to talk about on the campaign. this is what the obama administration has been militant about -- they want to talk about the bad things of the bush administration and the things they may do in the future that will make them better. they don't want to talk about the last
you know with joe biden you are going to get a handsful of these -- maybe every week. but the soft spot for president obama is that the record for the last four years is not one he can be particularly proud of. he is running on the clinton economy, more than he is on his own -- >> greta: in other words, they were buried -- >> well, whatever -- whatever -- whatever word you want to use, there are not a lot of things to point to in the economic numbers that make you feel good about t....
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it's in obama care, it's the independent payments advisory board. i predict we're going to hear a lot about that in the remaining weeks and that the american people are going to not like what they hear about it. the authority it will exercise unchecked by congress to effectively ration health care. there are arguments for it and against it. but it's going to be debated and it's going to, i suspect, i know political prophesy, i'm committing it, i think it's going to be a remaining part. >> we love it when you commit it, george, and thank you. on one point, both campaigns run, they didn't want their candidates to come in angry or contentious, particularly and they didn't seem rattled. they did seem gracious to each other and i said we would get back to this, the big winner of all, maybe, big bird. there is now a facebook page. big board for president. >> who will survive? we'll be right back. music is a universal language. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got he
it's in obama care, it's the independent payments advisory board. i predict we're going to hear a lot about that in the remaining weeks and that the american people are going to not like what they hear about it. the authority it will exercise unchecked by congress to effectively ration health care. there are arguments for it and against it. but it's going to be debated and it's going to, i suspect, i know political prophesy, i'm committing it, i think it's going to be a remaining part. >>...
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things like voting rights, women's rights, topics that were omitted last week between president obama and romney. the issue of sensible gun laws. the first presidential debate took place a short distance from aurora, colorado. a victim had a message for the candidates in an ad that airs during the debate. >> this past summer in a movie theater in colorado, i was shot. shot in the face and neck. but i was lucky. in the next four years, 48,000 americans won't be so lucky because they will be murdered with guns in the next president's term. enough to fill 200 theaters. when you watch the presidential debates, ask yourself, who has a plan to stop gun violence? let's demand a plan. it didn't get an area. joining us is comedian chris. john warner and rebecca, contributor to the magazine. i feel of two minds about the debate. focus is good. depth is good. i was appreciative they allowed depth on the issues they talked about, but frustrates there's only so many of these. one is foreign policy. in terms of domestic policy, the next debate is basically it and the vice president debate. i feel t
things like voting rights, women's rights, topics that were omitted last week between president obama and romney. the issue of sensible gun laws. the first presidential debate took place a short distance from aurora, colorado. a victim had a message for the candidates in an ad that airs during the debate. >> this past summer in a movie theater in colorado, i was shot. shot in the face and neck. but i was lucky. in the next four years, 48,000 americans won't be so lucky because they will...
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i've been blogging and interviewing him for weeks and weeks to tell me and he drops that bomb before this local guy. >> he's getting so pressure to come out with specifics here. >> he's got to give specifics on loopholes and spending. but president obama has to give specifics too. we don't know where he's going in a second term. because he's never said. >> exactly. and he's not getting the pressure the way romney is. larry, we'll talk to you during the show. you're going to be here watching this debate and analyzing it. joining us now is ron paul. representative paul is a staunch critic of the fed. certainly fed jim bernanke and a big hawk about our deficit. good to have you on the program. >> thank you, maria. good to be with you. >> what are you expecting? do you think governor romney comes out swinging right off the bat? what do you think he is going to be pressured and asked about in terms of specifics on his economic plan? >> overall i don't expect a whole lot of specifics from either one. in the last several weeks the whole of the discussion has been on debate techniques and wh
i've been blogging and interviewing him for weeks and weeks to tell me and he drops that bomb before this local guy. >> he's getting so pressure to come out with specifics here. >> he's got to give specifics on loopholes and spending. but president obama has to give specifics too. we don't know where he's going in a second term. because he's never said. >> exactly. and he's not getting the pressure the way romney is. larry, we'll talk to you during the show. you're going to be...
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even though both my wife and i have said publicly over the last couple weeks if romney arrives as tough, as aggressive with the clarity and the assertiveness he used in florida, we thought he would do very, very well but i got the sense that obama came in in a very relaxed way, without adequate preparation, and frankly was stunned at the intensity and at the facts. one of the challenges the obama team has with their whole new mantra which is if only mitt romney had been a nice person it would have been a better debate, romney just piled on with fact after fact after fact -- i'm talking about facts like 23 million unemployed is a pretty specific fact. >> what about this fact. what about this fact, mr. speaker. romney claimed that president obama's cutting $716 billion from medicare that will affect current people in the program. was that a fact? >> that certainly is what the congressional budget office says. the numbers for that have been pretty well vetted over and over again. >> our own cnn fact checker says it's false. president obama's affordable care act allows for a reduction in th
even though both my wife and i have said publicly over the last couple weeks if romney arrives as tough, as aggressive with the clarity and the assertiveness he used in florida, we thought he would do very, very well but i got the sense that obama came in in a very relaxed way, without adequate preparation, and frankly was stunned at the intensity and at the facts. one of the challenges the obama team has with their whole new mantra which is if only mitt romney had been a nice person it would...
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weeks. no mention of that. no mention of bain capital. no mention of the tax returns. no mention of outsourcing. and so it seems to me that the president is going to have to look for opportunities, which by the way i think mitt romney handed him last night, but he just didn't seem to hear them. >> he wasn't either prepared or didn't want to get into that kind of debate. >> right. >> so what did romney do last night that we probably haven't seen before? >> well, i think he managed to do a couple of things really well. and i want to play this one bite for you then we can talk about it. >> i just don't know how the president could have come into office facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment, an economic crisis at the kitchen table and spend his energy and passion for two years fighting for obama care instead of fighting for jobs for the american people. it has killed jobs. >> the big thing he did is that he seemed to be able to relate almost every answer to job creation. and
weeks. no mention of that. no mention of bain capital. no mention of the tax returns. no mention of outsourcing. and so it seems to me that the president is going to have to look for opportunities, which by the way i think mitt romney handed him last night, but he just didn't seem to hear them. >> he wasn't either prepared or didn't want to get into that kind of debate. >> right. >> so what did romney do last night that we probably haven't seen before? >> well, i think...
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we will see what the next few weeks will hold. it's always nice when the candidate gets to deliver a message unfiltered. there have been attack ads on television. things the obama administration has said about him. this was his opportunity to speak directly to the american people. i thought that he communicated very clearly and effectively and in a way that i think will be -- get a favorable reception from those people watching who perhaps had not made up their mind on who to vote for. >> i have never seen an incumbent president come into a debate with the stakes so high and looking so flat. he was meandering, boring, he had no vision, no passion. the president had no heart. it was an unbelievably bad performance by the presidents and an unbelievably great performance by mitt romney. >> will conservative republicans be enthusiastic after tonight? cracks are not only think -- >> i not only think the train is on the rail, but this thing is ready to go. we are ready for this debate for the american people. >> what was your favorite e
we will see what the next few weeks will hold. it's always nice when the candidate gets to deliver a message unfiltered. there have been attack ads on television. things the obama administration has said about him. this was his opportunity to speak directly to the american people. i thought that he communicated very clearly and effectively and in a way that i think will be -- get a favorable reception from those people watching who perhaps had not made up their mind on who to vote for. >>...
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even though both my wife and i have said publicly over the last couple weeks if romney arrives as tough, as aggressive with the clarity and the assertiveness he used in florida, we thought he would do very, very well but i got the sense that obama came in in a very relaxed way, without adequate preparation, and frankly was stunned at the intensity and at the facts. one of the challenges the obama team has with their whole new mantra which is if only mitt romney had been a nice person it would have been a better debate, romney just piled on with fact after fact after fact -- i'm talking about facts like 23 million unemployed is a pretty specific fact. >> yeah. i can't answer why he didn't do that. but i can tell you this. i do know that he was waiting to hear from mitt romney about how he was going to pay for his $5 trillion tax cut and he didn't get an answer. i would love to know from newt gingrich, who i know has been working with and is a surrogate for the romney campaign. can he name two, at least two of the deductions that will be cut to be able to pay for the $5 trillion tax cut t
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it made no sense to me a week ago basically it was five up obama. now it's five up romney? >> bill: i'm going to defer that question -- we're going to talk about the pew poll at the top of the next hour here. let me just say this, do not panic about one poll. lynn calling from topeka indiana? >> caller: topeka indiana. >> bill: i never knew there was a topeka indiana. >> caller: yeah we're not that far from the michigan border. >> bill: and you compete with topeka, kansas for fame; is that it? >> caller: i don't know about that. [ laughter ] >> bill: what is on your mind this morning. >> caller: mr. romney to me is not mr. romney. it's mr. chicken hawk. this guy can screw up -- i don't know -- >> bill: a two-car funeral as they say. >> caller: yeah there could be a major accident involved. [ laughter ] >> caller: he scares me to death. not only does he screw up with saying about russia being our national enemy -- >> bill: oh, right. >> caller: and then he can go over to britain and get people ticked to the high heaven, and that was a disaster tour from comedy central. he is
it made no sense to me a week ago basically it was five up obama. now it's five up romney? >> bill: i'm going to defer that question -- we're going to talk about the pew poll at the top of the next hour here. let me just say this, do not panic about one poll. lynn calling from topeka indiana? >> caller: topeka indiana. >> bill: i never knew there was a topeka indiana. >> caller: yeah we're not that far from the michigan border. >> bill: and you compete with topeka,...
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the obama anyway litigate flip flopping. we'll see what the next week will look at. >> rose: i want to come back to that but john dickerson tell me about the medicare argument and obama says he prefers now and like the sound of obamacare. who won that particular argument about obamacare and what it does and whatever romney's proposing and what that will do, including what ryan says about vouchers. >> well, the whole healthcare debate was a pretty good proxy for the larger debate. romney had his five points against the president. he talked about these panels which there's a panel called death panels. he talked about the $716 billion cut. the president's response was he kind of backed into his response figuring he would explain it and everybody would be smart enough to see the absurdity of mitt romney but he was not clear and on point. particularly on this voucher question, and what romney would propose with paul ryan to do to medicare. i mean, this is where i heard from a couple republicans well now we're on to medicare and t
the obama anyway litigate flip flopping. we'll see what the next week will look at. >> rose: i want to come back to that but john dickerson tell me about the medicare argument and obama says he prefers now and like the sound of obamacare. who won that particular argument about obamacare and what it does and whatever romney's proposing and what that will do, including what ryan says about vouchers. >> well, the whole healthcare debate was a pretty good proxy for the larger debate....